Vanguard has an excellent article explaining currency risk here. I guess the SPDR Global Dividend Aristocrats ETF just fails to make the cut with its 0.45% charge. @ C-Strong – well played, and what a shame you haven’t been rewarded (yet) for your efforts. If you are taking a view on Sterling, then, by definition, you are not passively investing. Fortunately the gain outweighed the hedging costs by a useful margin on both occasions and I will probably follow the same (timing?) Both Vanguard FTSE Developed World UCITS ETFs. World coverage including Emerging Markets with the cheapest funds possible. “The L&G Global Small Cap Equity Index Fund is an ICAV so domiciled in Ireland. Re: above comment, have now received confirmation from HL that there is no 3% entry or exit fee payable on this ETF (not when buying through them anyway, but almost certainly not broker specific), which is the expected outcome – but better to be safe than sorry.. Hi all. I am presuming it is not just the lowest fee that dictates the best fund, but other factors too? I have set up a public watchlist on JustETF.com which summarises the LSE listed ETFs that track the FTSE All-World or MSCI World Indeces, along with their TERs and returns . It’s a good example of shadow indexing. Asia ex-Japan (VAPX) Any recommendations if so please? If you would like to have the fund added, the best way to do this is to approach the platforms and request for the fund to be added as they need to see customer demand before agreeing to add funds. Hi Lee…Now we’ve seen the effects of a market downturn due to Covid-19, the bond fund provides less volatility during volatile equity markets. Currently the fund is 3.44% in the UK. Currency moves can knock 10% or more off valuations very short term (even overnight — like EU Referendum). Here are some staggering fund facts from Morningstars mid 2020 report: You can see how, over a 20 year period, only 13.9% of actively managed funds were able to match or beat the index. Monevator is a simply spiffing blog about making, saving, and investing money. https://monevator.com/how-to-work-out-your-portfolios-cost/. The factsheets from iShares/HSBC web sites give 5 year NAV USD performance to 31/08 of 64.97% (10.53%) for SWDA and 64.82% (10.51%) for HMWO, putting SWDA slightly ahead. Thank you for updating the list. Although @ZXSpectrum48k suggests that querying about what exactly is passive investing was damaging the thread, I’m not so sure that it is. Weekend reading: And the little one said, rollover. Although I do have some short dated gilts in one of my near cash-like work pension funds. Japan (VJPN) Did you know there are over 29,000 unit trust funds available to UK investors with more being added daily? iShares Global Aggregate Bond UCITS ETF USD (Dist) GBP (ticker:SAGG) 0.10% You can take the dividend yield as a cash payment (Income Fund) or you can reinvest dividends (Accumulation Fund). http://doc.morningstar.com/Document/407f825631224e05f41082b45e3c997a.msdoc/?key=6d3ad7cced83e966eb033a99485759465b00047aee79de5f. I’m not sure what you are asking since VHVG (dist) and VEVE (acc) are essentially the same. You can’t blame grandad’s advice because that is what his trusted financial adviser told him to do; the same adviser who was paid handsomely from unit trust front and back end incentives (also known as loads), trading commissions and annual trailing commissions. I know you caveat this by saying you are going totally on OCF, not tracking loss etc. If there are any other wrinkles worth mentioning, I’ll throw them in along the way. (I expect the £ to recover somewhat post Brexit). Do you know some of the mega-funds hold the same investments but charge different fees? Did you purchase your Fidelity fund through Fidelity, or another platform please? The global bond fund I use has a high mix of government and a lower mix of corporate bonds. I have the following all world etf VWRL with charges at 0.25%. I also hold an ETF on FreeTrade – VMID which tracks the same FTSE 250 index at an OCF of 0.10%. Have updated the piece. Its a nightmare to calculate so I just avoid offshore funds/etfs in taxable accounts. Contributor. Stay updated via RSS, email, Twitter, or Facebook. @ The Accumulator, C-Strong – Why not just go for VVAL? https://www.ishares.com/uk/individual/en/products/251736/ishares-euro-government-bond-35yr-ucits-etf I think the FTSE index could be a decent vehicle for long-term investors. Another issue is one fund might perform gloriously one year while the following year, it could fall flat on its face due to the fund manager picking the wrong shares. You can send me a message. The UK fund price is also at risk if the UK experiences post-Brexit adverse economic conditions. Thanks for this list: excellent starting point. So I’ll probably stick with that hefty allocation. Not good. At least for Global Value, there were a few ETFs to choose from. E.g. If the lower charges are correct is this performance difference down to tracking error or am I not comparing apples with apples? No one needs a financial adviser to buy index trackers. Baillie Gifford Global Discovery: 76.8% Sector: Global. In contrast, tracking the new index will allow the fund to keep the proportion of these bonds at its current, relatively low level. @Peter “re: L&G Global Small Cap Index Fund (IE00BG0VVG79)” It has a quoted OCF 0.11% on Interactive Investor though performance looks marginally poorer than: Vanguard UK Gov Bond Index (IE00B1S75374) OCF 0.15%. It has an OCF of 0.12% if I understand correctly. For example, it only offers income paying versions of the ETFs and accumulating versions of the funds. Platform fees are covered on our broker table, and we stick to fund Ongoing Charge Fees (OCFs) for this page. The forex charge for converting back to GBP can make a modest difference to the cost of investing. I have investments in global funds and trusts- Fundsmith, lindsell train global fund, Scottish Mortgage investment trust are my main global holdings and all their returns easily beat the returns listed over 5 years on Hargreaves Lansdown research pages despite their higher charges. Investors need only pay any relevant broker and stock exchange fees and commissions’. Interesting that you pick out L&G as reliable – I’ll need to take a closer look. Regarding who through, I am likely to be going via Lloyds as already have a share dealing account and ISA there and they offer competitive rates and the regular investing automation etc that fit within my current needs. They pass some of the benefit on to the client (who thinks they are magically outperforming owning a passive tracker) and they pocket the rest. When the platform approaches us we will be more than happy to help facilitate adding the fund to the various platforms.”, I would like to invest in this fund too, so I will get onto ATS and AJBell next week and see what happens. Would you aim to keep all these combined around 0.1% or is that a figure you aim to keep just for the ongoing charge? This is a low cost FTSE 350 tracker fund with a 0.16% pa annual charge. @Kwakil. I’ll leave it there since I don’t want to damage the thread further. If anyone comes across any better index tracker options I’d love to hear about them in the comments below. If you want unhedged global sovereign bonds in OEIC form then iShares Overseas Government Bond Index Class H is worth a mention. And my 5% gold is in the HANetf Royal Mint ETF, where the underlying physical is buried in a Royal Mint vault in Wales, even though the TER is a teensy bit higher at 0.22%. I used to use Iweb because each trade is only £5 but now Trading 212 offers free trades. The only difference I can see is that “and Scaled”. Recall it was a bloodbath. 4 Best Aggressive Growth Mutual Funds for 2020. If I wanted to do this, (for example because I want to buy N America separately because I think it’s overvalued)… what would I buy to represent the UK? Let’s get right to the point. VWRL fees have stayed the same but its now possible to get an all world tracker for about half the fee price (developed world but let’s ignore that for the time being). Its huge, global government, unhedged and only slightly pricey at OCF .20%. Apologies for been so hasty jumping in asking questions so quickly without fully taking the time to look what had already been written. I am looking at ETFs only because my platform AJ Bell Youinvest does not charge for ETFs but does for OEIC funds. There was an interesting article in the FT yesterday about Blackrock launching a swap based S&P 500 ETF to save tax, despite being vocally against them for years. Best Tracker Funds – Forget Single Stocks. In 2016 I swapped VUSA for IGUS (S&P 500 unhedged distributing for £hedged accumulating) when the £ dropped below $1.2 and reversed when it hit $1.3+. Thanks as ever for this information, what an amazing resource! When considering bond trackers, I avoid strictly corporate bond funds as these bonds are debt held against private companies and don’t pay high enough returns to warrant the extra risk. https://fundcentres.lgim.com/uk/ad/fund-centre/Unit-Trust/Global-Inflation-Linked-Bond-Index-Fund Given their global network, tax arb is something HSBC is quite good at … just ask the Russians! . Fidelity offers joint accounts for up to three people. Your passive portfolio is built to fit your long-term objectives/target/aims etc. @ZX – interesting. Doesn’t contain small cap or emerging markets whereas the All-World index contains a smidge of both. We only update this list periodically. Is it an unwritten rule that unhedged bonds are not to be part of passive investing? Hi Gordon, welcome! I’m aware of a few good ETFs but can’t see an equivalent fund. I am new to this site but have been investing for a number of years now. Other companies offer low fees as an introductory rate, then quietly hike their fees. The S&P 500 is widely recognized as the best single gauge of the large-cap U.S. equities. If I had a reliable working crystal ball, I might think that Global stocks will outperform US stocks because of Covd-19, but this is purely my speculation. But am wondering whether I’m overpaying on the OCF out of ignorance! Or try this link https://www.ft.com/content/6600bd7f-5433-47d3-a2df-04411e6de75b. I use Charles Stanley Direct. In other words, the fund tracks the broad equity market including large, mid, small and micro-cap stocks. @ZX – thanks for that. @ Julie – you can work out your costs using the info on this piece: Appreciate your time! FWIW, I’ve tended to choose my platform first and make sure that it (or my next best choice) has the right funds (or some close alternatives). Sounds similar? I’m in my mid 40’s and own about 35% in bond funds. @shaz M — Some few funds do beat the market. IGLT and IGLS are now 0.07%, and IXNG is 0.1%. Topping the list is investment trust RIT Capital Partners. and I find Trustnet usable but it gives me the willies that the sources generally differ and I’ve uncovered a clear cut case of unreliability with Trustnet in the past. If you’re new to passive investing then it might seem like you now have a lot of decisions to make after reading all that. This is one fund that I have been looking at – the Fidelity Index World Fund: https://www.fidelity.co.uk/factsheets/Fidelity-Index-World-Fund/GB00BJS8SJ34-GBP/?id=GB00BJS8SJ34&idType=isin&marketCode=&idCurrencyId=. I contributed to a piece in the Telegraph regarding this particular fund titled ' The tracker fund that survives stock market routs '. https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/diyinvesting/article-5298879/How-funds-hidden-fees-Heres-check.html I should have read the KIID properly: Anyone aware of taxes being charged based on the domicile of the ETF despite it being held in an ISA wrapper? @ Naeclue – thank you for taking the time to walkthrough your process. So (my) panic over! I would very much doubt that it’s FX hedging costs. Thank you. Trading 212: £1 minimum deposit, you can buy ETF’s instead of the trackers (Click this link to receive a free share worth up to £100 by depositing £1). IL durations are huge. Disclaimer: This page is for information purposes only. To my mind the significant difference between the two is that one is an OEIC and one an ETF and the impact that platform charges on your chosen platform will have as a consequence. I agree that from the holder’s perspective the fund domicile doesn’t seem relevant. @TA, getting good historical data is key to any analysis, as is comparing oranges to oranges. For the Vangaurd All World ETF, you’ve given it the Lyxor ticker (LCWL) instead of VWRL. Pretty shoddy! Five reasons why you’ll love index investing, The seven habits of highly successful private investors, How to create your own cheap, simple and secure Guaranteed Equity Bond, Wealth preservation strategies of the rich, Why you might be your own diamond of a dream tenant. I personally don’t buy these because ETF’s can be traded like stocks so their price can fluctuate and I don’t like the temptation of easy liquidation. Index tracker investment funds have become increasingly popular due to increased awareness of investment costs associated with active managed funds over time which do not always perform better. It’s basically down to a mix of theory (return profile/time horizon of lower return bonds and lack of natural hedging) and evidence (from memory on a risk adjusted basis hedged bond funds proved better). But I’d welcome any thoughts. HSBC FTSE All-World Index Fund C (GB00BMJJJG09) OCF 0.18%, Next best Start Here, avoid checking share prices and avoid buying single company stocks because it’s too risky, Kuflink Review – My Peer To Peer Lender Experiences After 3 Years, My Trading 212 £5,500 Portfolio Experiment – Feb 10 2021 Update, My Trading 212 £5,500 Portfolio Experiment – Dec 22nd Update, Assetz Capital Review – My Lending Experiences After 5+ Years, Ratesetter Review – My Lender Experiences After 5+ Years, Landbay Review – My Lender Experiences After 4+ Years, Lending Works Review – My Experiences After 5+ Years Investing, Best Investments During Low Interest Rates. WTF! Something I was wondering about the Gold ETCs… All those providers (Invesco, iShares, Wisdom Tree) say that real gold is allocated. Swap based ETFs can be really efficient, for example Xtracker XSPU is a swap based S&P 500 ETF that manages to avoid US dividend withholding taxes, unlike replicating S&P 500 ETFs, so manages to beat the replicating ETFs even with a relatively high (for S&P trackers) TER of 0.15%. If something is “half as cheap” does it cost more, or less? I’ll put that on the list. Anyway I mention it as they are the two $TIPS ETF’s I’ve used. Regarding swap based ETFs and stock lending, there is a significant difference in the level of counterparty risk between the 2 activities. Now before I make the step I wanted to ask if there is any disadvantage to holding just one Equity component. So you have the knowledge and resilience when such a market dip happens that you don’t react and sell sell sell or time the dip etc. This may be something worth noting in these listings. For regular monthly investments then a “free to trade” perentage based platform would favour the HSBC option. Could you explain in what way or point to some articles about deaccumulation? But is there anyway to tell if they are engaging in ‘fractional banking’? Hello, Im new to this and have a question for you please: And I am aware that moving into these currencies now would be falling into the usual psychological trap of buying low… Because dividend yields are low, I would advise buying the accumulation fund to take advantage of the power of compounding interest, unless of course, you need the income. Well on Bloomberg I am seeing 97.49% (14.58%) for SWDA and 98.79% (14.73%) for HMWO. Vanguard believe this gives investors the benefit of diversification while limiting risk.” I hold this, it will be interesting to see how it behaves in a major downturn. On that tip…. AGBP and VAGS have different indices. Now I have a passion for helping others figure out what took me years to learn. 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