waiting for superman full transcript

And so I think we need to focus on the kids and I think what's great about this film is that it does that. STEIN: Good parents. Yes, first or second grade skills. "Waiting for Superman" • Many of them. It's happening in Los Angeles. And that's something that no parent wants their child to ever be a witness or to hear when they're going to school. WEINGARTEN:  There’s lots of -- look. So the question is, what's New York City doing right? And I agree with Cheryl. Because politically, these -- the things that we were doing, closing down schools, firing teachers, moving principals, those were not politically popular things to do. Look at Woodside High School. KING: And? BRZEZINSKI:  If you leave Washington, D.C. are you going to Newark? When he's saying, well, how come -- you know, the students need to be held accountable for not wanting to learn. We're feeling a real sense of commitment. Steve Perry is a CNN education contributor and the principal and founder of Capital Proprietary, a magna school. But teachers are very, very important. I get why that's good for the adults. New York City on a bad day outpaced Washington on a great day. I paid that man to do this. We'll be right back. All they're doing is trying to get higher test scores, because of the way they're being evaluated. Come on out. No one wants lousy teachers. Ben will remain. 100 percent of the kids pass the science regions. RHEE:  Here’s the thing. Of course. The tenure process is supposed to be only due process to say that after your probationary period of three years, you're a good teacher or not. Because I know he's easily influenced to do things he shouldn't do. WEINGARTEN:  I live in New York --   RHEE:  You put $1 million into a mayoral campaign. And in it he talks about a specific experiment in which children or students watch the teacher. Now that they're there, teach them, man. And at the same time, have some due process so that we guard against our arbitrariness. The attendance and the schools itself. That their ranks stay swollen so that they can have -- they can be the political juggernauts that they are, so they can frighten local candidates, so they can control the way in which elections go. I want to say something about what John just said. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A child that doesn't finish high school will earn less and be eight times more likely to go to prison. And we agree with the mayor about that. When we put children first, children don't have the summers off. And that is a concept that is so necessary. I don't think that's the message of the movie, is not to attack the teachers, I think it's really shining a spotlight on how we're failing our kids and how we as adults are failing -- KING: All of us. He's a Grammy award winning songwriter. Should we engage parents and people like Cheryl more? You tried to change things and chances are good, because of it, you're going to get fired. This is based on test scores, standardized test scores. All of us have to take more responsibility. We certainly are not in education. SCARBOROUGH:  Last in, first out. And a lot of times some of the older civil rights organizations have historically aligned with the unions. There’s a lot of schools that I want to take you to Davis, great public schools where we are breaking the sound barrier, too. LEGEND:  I think there needs to be an understanding in our community when we fight for our kids we're fighting for our community. STEIN: I think it's a great idea. We're not attacking teachers. WEINGARTEN:  Look, we have schools in New York, like the school that Steve Barr and I run, which has a union contract, we're 100 percent of the kids path the math regions. Bob Woodward is here tomorrow night. RHEE: Well, I think that if you sort of try to boil it down, it's two things. SCARBOROUGH:  First and foremost --   LEGEND:  If we care about justice, if we care about equality in this country, we have to care about fixing education. GUGGENHEIM:  What’s really -- people -- when I hear this conversation, I want to bring it back to parents. SCARBOROUGH:  Fantastic. (CROSSTALK) RHEE: That's good, though. We'll be joined also by Grammy award-winning singer/songwriter John Legend and our friend at "MORNING JOE" as well. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to go to school. KING: Ben, if all this is true, I know in medicine we don't rank in the top ten in the world. So let me just end by saying this: in lots and lots of countries that have now out-paced us, first of all, they're all union, and they all engage teachers in a very different way. The issue is about how we create the best environment for kids. I think we all have to look in the mirror and say, what have we done wrong up until now and what do we need to do better? I mean I think that's what this whole debate is about in many ways. We'll get their side after this. SCARBOROUGH:  Do you think he's going to do the right thing now that the teachers union is giving him a million dollars? Michelle, you have been on the wrong side of the debate over here. SCARBOROUGH:  It’s about jobs. But I think we have to get a layer deeper than just the platitudes that remain on the stage. And then they are aligning due process with that. Forty percent -- LEGEND: That's what I said -- (CROSSTALK) LEGEND: Another 40 percent of the -- of the evaluation is based on five observations of the teachers' classroom practice. We would not allow this to persist in other communities. KING: Steve, why are you shaking your head no? Musician John Legend is an education reform activist. BRZEZINSKI:  You also knew that a little girl like Daisy can be a vet or a doctor or anything she wants to be if she's given the tools to do it. Give them what they came to get. I don't know that parents don't care. Yes, of course there is. MICHELLE RHEE, CHANCELLOR, D.C. PUBLIC SCHOOLS:  Well, I think you should probably ask the union folks that question. But as long as we try to pretend that all teachers are the same, and that there are not great teachers and not so great teachers, then we are never going to be able to solve the problems. So it may be that teaching to the test is one way of teaching, period. WEINGARTEN: It's absolutely not true. (END OF VIDEO CLIP) KING: That first quote, Michelle, there are teachers who are indifferent? Except one. SCARBOROUGH:  OK.  You talked about it. STEIN: I'm saying parents who care about their kids' education. Because I seen what you do, I’ve seen what Deborah Kinney has done, I’ve seen what a lot of people have done out there and it seems to me, the model is find an extraordinary person, put them in a school, let them run that school. So we now have 37 states who are doing these new standards. Anderson? We should let Randi respond. Ultimately, the three or four states that do the best are very densely union. The way it works is we have students apply. BRZEZINSKI:  Is there a possibility? SCARBOROUGH:  Davis? Because we have low expectations for certain people's children. The answer is we need great public education for all of our schools. Of course, Washington has problems going back decades. So good teachers supported by good leaders, really robust, engaging curriculum, and thirdly, you have to have these kind of wrap- around services that Jeff does in Harlem, that Syracuse does, that Pittsburgh does, by promising every child a college education if they graduate from high school. They put a lot of money into trying to revamp and rehab buildings. "The Green Lageen" • I think the point of departure between Michelle and I may be that I see, just like in Finland and Singapore and other places, that we need to all actually work together, focused on instruction, focused on how we help people do the best jobs they can and then --   BRZEZINSKI:  Wasn’t that what she was doing? SCARBOROUGH:  All right, Davis, Davis, you said at the beginning you didn't want to get involved in this project. GUGGENHEIM:  Absolutely. Ben Stein, the economist and former presidential speech writer, former college professor as well. And she's the executive producer of "School Pride," which will premiere on NBC on October 15th, and Ben Stein remains with us. In some ways when we fought for sources for kids like my union did, we were fighting to help kids get what they needed. Some teachers are not happy -- there's the cover of the album. "Jekyll and Hyde" Final words with our panel, next after a short break. When a grown person doesn't do her or his job, they have to go. I think Michelle's heart is in the right direction. HINES: Well, "School Pride" is a show that we're doing on NBC on Friday nights starting October 15th. WEINGARTEN:  No one, you know, teachers in at least our union would be the first to tell you, we rail against this system in some ways as much as Geoff and Michelle. You said OK we're not going to penalize bad teachers. But do you think Michelle Rhee was trying to improve the performance of the teachers in her district, was she trying to make the schools better? CANADA:  Sure. We don't hold the adults in the system responsible for ensuring that we have good outcomes for kids. CANADA:  There are two things. WEINGARTEN: We're not actually against the measuring of them. We're going to save your lives. Definitely. BRZEZINSKI:  They were underperforming it. Geoffrey Canada has done it. PERRY: It's a magna school. I think what's happened in places like Washington and I saw it compared to New York City. I want to talk about New York for one second. RHEE:  I'm just wondering, if the AFT was putting a million dollars into mayoral campaigns all across the country just based on who the teachers liked, I would buy that argument. When I see from my own experience as a school teach are for six years when evaluations didn't work and less than 20 percent of them think that evaluations work right now. We are asking parents who in some cases haven't taken chemistry either in 12, 15, 20 years or if ever, to help a child with chemistry homework. Are they cheating kids out of an education? We’re going to talk to in a second and that’s where Jeff Zucker told me I needed to go. It affects good teachers, too. _____ Reviewed by Joseph Flynn, Northern Illinois University Introduction Waiting for Superman is the latest documentary by the Academy Award winning director Davis Guggenheim. And lots of people say, well, it's impossible to -- KING: How -- RHEE: -- to measure teacher effectiveness, but we disagree. KING: There's a new mayor in town, right? Don't make -- I’m tired, man, I wake up at 3:30 in the morning. WEINGARTEN: And look, we sued -- when I was in New York City, we sued the city because of the condition of school buildings. Waiting for Balance: A Review of Waiting for Superman Directed by Davis Guggenheim Paramount Vantage and Participant Media, 2010. When you put a face on this issue, as we talk about the details of it, that's the thing I keep saying to myself, let's not forget as we argue and discuss and learn about this, let's not forget the kids. KING: Ben, are you optimistic at all? That is our big crisis in America right now. (LAUGHTER) PERRY: Let me just keep -- let me just do what I do. The failings of the public school system have to do with the fact that we have not put children first. Somebody who's fighting for kids like Daisy is John Legend. "The Grave Robbers" • UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So if Francisco doesn't get in, is there another chance? In reality, they're saying, "Good luck getting people to see that one. LEGEND:  Yes. What they do is they select schools within those communities and sometimes take out second mortgages on their homes to send their kids to private schools. "Higher Rank", "Sanctuary" • A school should be a clean, neat place with up to date equipment. Waiting for Superman/Transcript . SCARBOROUGH:  Randi said the teachers wanted the tools to get the job done. Because I can only speak about what is. It's must-see TV. RHEE:  You know what, here’s the thing. These high-performing charters are going in and they're reaching every kid and they're sending 90 percent of their kids to college. And it's just -- it changes your perspective.

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